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Old 01-19-2026 | 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by seminolepilot
I’d settle for that! Either way something is wrong and needs to be fixed. FFS we have Harbor Freight straps that are used to secure us as we hang out the door of a running airplane to conduct a PTOCC.
The reality that somebody actually came up with and presented the idea of opening a door with an engine running shows there is no safety first culture here - most safety conscious people would see that as a line being crossed. Using cheap safety straps, not remediating when called out on it, then cutting the tags off to hide that info shows they are reckless.

Not grounding the MD: FedEx and WAG followed suit so they are industry standard there.

Schedules and the optimizer: they’re gunna push until they see where our line is. That line is drawn by FAT calls. Flying tired is one thing but dozing off is too tired so that’s under FAT’s umbrella. Fatigue itself is different - you don’t necessarily need to be tired to be fatigued. It’s far better to call FAT if in any doubt or concern vs waiting until you know you are fatigued (which is well past the threshold anyway). We are way too conservative in calling FAT.

Document, document, document! There is only a problem when a documented trend is established. A paper trail leads to liability which effects change. This is true for fatiguing schedules, safety concerns, or straight out harassment. Have filed a report today?
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