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Old 01-27-2026 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by MinRest
So what EXACTLY do you want in a JCBA that basically future-proofs any hardship or stagnation the airline will face in the next 10 years?
Originally Posted by Flika
I know the question was rhetorical, but I actually think it’s a good one and worth thinking about. Not to catastrophize, but we should at least to acknowledge that Boeing’s track record over the past few years has been objectively bad. Maybe the MAX 10 comes online without a hitch, but how much confidence do we really have in Boeing introducing a new aircraft right now? And if there’s another issue, what does that mean for the pilot group?

There’s also the Amazon angle. How long does AAG realistically allow the HAL side to function as a contract carrier for Amazon? I don’t know all the details of how AAG operates, but based on what I do know about the Amazon operation, I can’t see it continuing in its current form for the full duration of the JCBA. The recent “Alaska is dissatisfied with Amazon” story didn’t come out by accident. Someone wanted that narrative out there.
It might come down to vote down the TA simply to delay the inevitable.

If AZ pilots are displaced after SLI they can go anywhere, and displace anyone (probably literally anyone on the AS list for the AZ CA's). If the displacement happens pre-SLI, they'll get settled into their new seats on the HA fleets and won't have any Bump & Flush rights after SLI. The big churn is compartmentalized on the HA side, and then post SLI things can slowly settle out over time with routine bids.

Sad that it might come to that, but is what it is. Although I'm sure the AS group could be bribed with a sufficiently juicy JCBA (no there won't be protections for really junior CA's, aside from hypothetically really good FO pay).
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