Originally Posted by
TTail
Like was said above, we lost BNE years ago. MCO was a more recent cut than that one. BOS and AUS were (and NRT and ICN to SEA) were the most recent cuts. Also, NRT and ICN have both already gone to the 787, although it does sound like NRT is coming back for the summer. Each one of those cuts has been made up for by block hour increases on west coast destinations. I think the only change is that they try to keep a spare aircraft in HNL now, instead of before where the entire fleet was committed to lines of flying.
BNE was lost Jan 2022, and was not destined to be lost until the Flu hit and service never came back. The point is it was a factor in the 330 fleet model. As was ICN, AUS, NRT,BOS, AKL not so much MCO because that was just the only major city open that year. Seemed dangerous to fly there given where Hawaiian is based, but we did anyway. Very strange.
Anyone who thinks all those destinations leaving and being replaced by soon to be 787 SEA- international pairings, or additional HNL-SEA pairings that won’t be around long term or a few additional frequencies to West Coast cities ( while profitable airlines fly narrow bodies) may still be believing everything you’re being told.
I’ll stand by my opinion the 330 will shrink or have a 2nd mainland base. Not enough flying to justify 24 in HNL. During those management Zoom calls, there is no way management is going to disclose any sort of plan to the rank and file other than what is already disclosed to the public. Especially plans that affect SEC filings. I doubt AS is going to go with $100-200million losses on this side of the equation long term. The State of Hawaii is still sliding backwards economy wise, not the other way around. Those assets, depending, on long term AS plans, could be utilized in places that either promote tourism or have much larger business travel environments.
The 330’s are going to be refurbished according to the calls. Has anyone seen the newest HA interiors sketch? (Maybe it’s out there and ai have not seen it) Typically they are promoted with much fanfare. I suspect they will be similar to the 787 SEA interiors.