Originally Posted by
captnate702
maybe I wasn’t clear. Unions should be held to way way a higher standard than management. Why does anyone act surprised when management negotiates for their benefit, uses the leverage they have, etc. that’s all I was trying to get at.
You are correct management has played the IBT like a fiddle. That’s what makes me laugh when people said management was using the Alpa drive. Management would HATE if we moved to Alpa. A professional union that cannot be jerked around. MG loves the IBT, he can walk all over them.
And yes, I was also told that the Union was given a deadline to start getting realistic or else the NMB was gonna ignore us til JCBA. That is why Josh, Jay, and the other Js that are still trying to sell us on their brilliant strategy of legacy contract and anything else will get us released.
You have been hitting the nail on the head for quite some time my friend. Moist, and Bitcoin who I have a good feeling who they are, are trying to not only make me a scape goat, but give a pass to all the mediocre and amateur representation. I too remember reading all the rhetoric online about the company not only wanting ALPA, but running the drive. The level of delusion clowns such as the one's I mentioned have, and the insane echo chambers conversations these clowns have among themselves in other chats, that I get to see my self, are not only hilarious, but disconnected of reality.
So according to Hightime80, and Bitcoin, I'm responsible (alone) for putting us into trusteeship. Idiots like this, that hype themselves up with these mediocre conspiracies have completely abandoned all reason, and reality on the ground. Which is why we are where we are. Because they are no different than all those that represented us for years. Ego maniacs that actually believed they had a case for an impasse, or that they actually had MG bent over a barrel. And when we actually had some actual leverage (2023-2024) they squandered it, because they got greedy for their own glory.
All ignored the fact that **********i+ happens, and leverage can evaporate in an instant. So instead of being honest and try to salvage what they could, they decided to create scapegoats, and not face the music of their own doing. This is why ALPA at some point will most likely represent. Because even though this current EXCO is working hard like no other leadership at this airline to clean things up, deliver a good contract, and properly represent; the damage done by priors is unforgivable. Yet you have idiots that still think that expecting, or demanding more of the same prior garbage is the only way we can lock something down that's worthy.
Amateurs! There are legit some that say, "even if we get everything we ever wanted, I'm voting NO on principal". Seriously? The level of idiocy and ideology is beyond belief. The election was clear, yet, 'the side that lost says'... "If it's this, or that, or less than what I THINK, and what I was fed for years, then is concessionary".
The majority of pilots debating with these buffoons are like BEES TRYING TO CONVINCE FLIES THAT EATING HONEY IS BETTER THAN EATING SH*******.