Originally Posted by
MaxQ
You left out two entire paragraphs of my post.
They covered 3 items.
1. Difference between reconstituting the old USSR and other countries that were controlled by the USSR but were not Soviet Republics.
2. The 3 USSR Baltic Republics would be safe due to NATO. (that whole EU economy thing you speak of)
3. I specifically stated that the other European countries would be in danger of attack IF NATO was dissolved. In that case we are no longer speaking of the EU population or economies. We are speaking of a fragmented country by country situation.
By omitting the middle two paragraphs you changed my post to fit your response.
Your response did not address the situation presented in my post, and is hence just word salad.
Did you deliberately edit my post, or did the middle 65% just get dropped by the computer gods?
Also see post #41.
what, you mean this sort of ad hominem garbage?
Obviously, if Putin achieves his, Trump's, and your goal of a breakup of NATO, then all bets are off. Russia could attack each country one by one on her own timescale.
Explain how MY goal is the breakup of NATO? I, like damn near every US administration sine TRUMAN and certainly the Bush,Clinton, Bush Jr, Obama, and Trump administration has been encouraging our NATO Allie’s to actually fund their militaries at a level that would provide DETERRENCE. After 1991 pretty much ALL the rest of NATO (Eastern European countries like Poland and Estonia excepted) DRASTICALLY cut back the funding of their own militaries. Even after the Russians seized Crimea, all they did was establish an ASPIRATIONAL goal of getting to 2% of. Their gdp OVER A TEN YEAR PERIOD which MOST OF THEM WEREN’T even on a timeline to meet three years ago and which some of the major economic powers (Spain, Turkey, Canada) are already failing or just barely managing to do.
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https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blog...nding-targets/
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crk25k47dlgo
https://www.turkishminute.com/2025/0...-sipri-report/
So yeah, NATO has become ineffective due to 35+ years of our NATO ally’s failing to do their part, but I scarcely see that as Trump’s fault (who has at least extracted a PROMISE from them to build up NATO conventional forces and how you make the gelding of NATO into one of MY aspirational goals is lunacy.
Clearly, if these nations are going to continue to underfund their militaries than NATO will be ineffective. Just as clearly, blaming that on Trump or me personally is ludicrous.
So what “other “ non-NATO economies are you currently assuming the Russians will be going after.