Originally Posted by
hockeypilot44
It’s about the majority of our pilot group. Lots of us have taken a six figure paycut over this issue. Yes, it’s about us. Anyone that takes that kind of loss is going to be upset. Why? So some pilots can get paid to do nothing, others can claim they are winning because the company has to call each pilot 12 minutes at a time, and so some extremely junior pilots can get trips at double pay that historically they never would have gotten.
My guess is the coverage ladder just disappears and quick slip becomes the new normal until we get a contract that eliminates AA and OOBWS. I’m fine with that. At least progress is being made.
Originally Posted by
hockeypilot44
You are wrong. I personally have never gotten an IA. I literally started a thread on how to get one. I used to get a GS per month until September. I was 8 for 8 in first 8 months of last year. 12 for 12 in previous year.
I guarantee you won’t see a single pilot get QS 6 or 7. My guess is you won’t see anyone get #3. A few pilots in each category will probably get 2. Meanwhile, every month certain pilots were getting 6-7 IA’s. If this is the case, it will just show how messed up the system was.
Originally Posted by
FangsF15
Your logic is flawed. Hockey is 100% right on this one. I haven't been able to snag an IA in the current climate yet, and haven't gotten a GS in at least 6 months, when I could reliably get at LEAST a 1-day every month before. The problem is IA's go out without rhyme or reason to them, there is no order - unlike GS.
So yes, it IS costing that kind of money over what they otherwise would have expected to get. QS can't come quickly enough.
I've never flown an IA at the company, nor do I participate in "farming." That said, I could have been more precise. The problem is the characterization that it's junior's fault, when it belongs squarely with the company. But, if you want to be technical about it, then the way things were previously - for you - was the anomaly. Yes, you were getting X # of GS / mo...when pilots were not putting in massive numbers of OOBWS to gum up the system. Nothing has changed in the contract though. People just woke up to a niche detail within the contract and started exploiting it for their gain.
The BS part is certain pilots being OK with trashing the entire coverage ladder to ensure that they get *theirs*. I want QS here as fast as possible, too. It's likely that scheds can tell who is on the line and are able to choose the pilot who will disrupt / cost the system the least. I want it back to an ordered process ASAP.
In the end, what QS will really accomplish for the pilot group is guaranteeing that no commuter EVER gets a GS. That's a problem.