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Old 02-23-2026 | 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Donkey Guts
Now let me just say this clearly.

Sun Country’s PBS absolutely allows for up to 100% unstacking. That is a fact. Under certain circumstances, every ALPA carrier provides for up to 100% unstacking as well. That is not speculation. That is how these systems are structured across the industry.

What I can also tell you is this. The conversations with the new executive board demonstrate something very important. They understand PBS. They understand the mechanics. They understand the levers. And they understand how those levers affect pilots lives.

And I think it is only fair, and frankly reasonable, to allow this board the opportunity to do the work. For the first time since we have been under the IBT, we have leadership that is very intelligent, capable, and prepared.

Now let us give them the space to do what we elected them to do.
I generally agree with what you are saying but it's worth noting a couple things (some of this directed to Sunny guys). The math doesnt work for the union, the company, or the PBS vendor (NavBlue). G4 has bases with only 1 plane seasonally, and the company just throws darts at a board for staffing models......blindfolded. How would anyone even be able to make a decent schedule out of that mess? Some interns practicing their AI coding on the scheduling software? It would be like watching a monkey trying to hump a football.

It's true that at a REAL airline, the union makes the schedules then gives them to the company under agreed upon guidelines, many have already been stated previously. G4 CURRENTLY uses a spreadsheet that is just one step above email line bidding that Great Lakes used to do. It is 100% company controlled and manipulated. Do you think the company would give up control to allow the union to make schedules? Serious question, the NC will have to explain this.

So the devil is really in the details, not "whatever is the lowest % unstacking". So here is my issue, the person most adamant about not agreeing to anything on scheduling is now in charge of negotiating. So what's changed? There really is no way to fix this. Unless you are going to close every seasonal or small base and lose day trips. PBS doesnt work on the G4 model....my point is, saying APLA does this and Sunny does that is comparing apples to oranges.



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