So 1193 then and 1323 now (your numbers l, I haven't fact checked)means the HA side has had almost 11% growth since the announcement. The other posters assessment that we are "about the same" doesn't hold much water. Our current ALPA list shows 3452, not 3800. With our 150ish new hires we are maybe slightly ahead of retirements over the same time. Definitely not "about the same". Again, I think it will even out eventually, but our proudly all Boeing philosophy has hamstrung us for the last few years. I really wonder if they count the cost of not being able to grow when they claim the 737 is so much cheaper than the 321. To differentiate myself from GJ, I want to mention again that I am not miserable. I enjoy my job, even as a fairly junior reserve, and it has made things possible for my family that wouldn't have been if I hadn't taken the early upgrade. But GJ's numbers check out. His decision to be constantly miserable because of it doesn't.