IIRC the post VEOP bid had them go down to less than 9000 active pilots with 7,000 via continued attrition as their stated goal. They then said further reductions were likely and I thought they cited the 4,500 number. It was during negotiations with ALPA to get us to take a pay cut so they were saying a lot.

either way. Panic is the reason we don’t have a CVG base.