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Old 03-24-2026 | 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine
I don’t believe it. Are you telling me, HAL inter island is based on 35 minute turn?! Let’s say the state needs flights from 7am to 7pm. Assuming an average stage length of 120 miles, that means block time are about 35 minutes. That means a 717 doing 35 minute turns could do 10.2 flights per day. Is that the current rate HAL is/was operating flights? In my experience, a 717 turns just as fast as a 737.i
The turn times in HNL are often longer due to sequencing of lines, but outstation turns are normally between 30 and 35 minutes. Block is up a bit due to not being able to do the channel approach anymore (thanks Southwest), but I think OGG and LIH are about 40 minutes of block now, with Kona being 50 and Hilo being 1 hour. Personal air time record back from LIH one night was 17 minutes wheels up to wheels down.

Looking at the schedule for tomorrow, the first departures out of HNL are at 5:30 AM with the first departures out of the outstations (from overnighting crews) are at 6am. The last departure out of HNL is at 9:40pm with the last outstation departures leaving at about 9pm. Every aircraft is running between 8 and 10 segments during the day.

This is a downsized schedule from pre covid. The last departures from the outstations used to be around 10pm although back then we didn't have any overnights, so the last HNL departures were earlier. Planes were running quicker turns in HNL then too, so each tail was doing 12+ segments a day. I think what's mostly changed is the large number of mainland flights that go directly to a neighbor island. When everything went into HNL, you needed a lot more flights mid day to move everybody to their final destinations. Now, you need more flights early and late to get the commuters around, but not as many to move arriving and departing tourists.

Originally Posted by Disappointment
That's not going to matter to management, if it's not making money, it will get cut. Dont be fooled by all the mahalos and alohas in the emails from corporate, they dont have a sense of duty driving them, it's all business.
We know they aren't being serious until we get at least to Mālamas in an email.
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