I don't consider getting released to be the Ace you seem to think it is. Far as I understand no other group has gotten released, given our track record it is foolish to think we will succeed where other have failed. The company obviously does not fear us being released. That should be a big red flag. We have been walking down this road for a long time yet we are no closer to where we want to be , and the company certainly does not seem to be coming around because why would they. they get nearly everything they want from us with little effort and cost.

Until recently I was willing to wait it out. We called for a status meeting, then government shut down now nothing. No follow up no continuation no picking up where we left off. Some times I think the company was waiting for the status meeting just to swap out BB to throw a monkey wrench in the works. Here we are months later and the last memo from the company I read stated the company goals were essentially unchanged from what they have been in the past.

We work for a company who's plan moving forward is based on our Low wages and aggressive cost cutting. We need an MEC who will tell them " we have given you years of breathing room with our low wages. That is Over we expect wages and work rules to be in the ball park of other major airlines."

The best practice would be to look at other airlines who have inked contracts and see how they did it. (no one has gotten released that I know of)

I am all for negotiation. hell at this point I would take a small raise with a 5-7% increase year over year in perpetuity up to Legacy snap ups with some work rule improvements.

The problem is an overall lack of pressure on the company. They fighting tooth and nail to keep the status quo, and the simple truth is Frontier can continue running the way it is So long as the rates are low. There is no "Appetit for farther collaboration" Because we are not the squeaky wheel that needs to be fixed.

I advocate high turnover in leadership because likely we get another MM type. Nothing gets done for years, and a decent amount of leverage evaporates. Then here we are watching our Union hock a LOA for a raise and saying things like. "There is no point in negotiating the company is not making any money" Then we start this process all over again from where we are standing now which is not far from where we started. If we get a guy who is pulling Great. The way things have been working around here I am not optimistic that will happen