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So only DEN pilots should fly DEN turns? Same with other domiciles? Trip rigs, duty rigs, APL, shouldn’t matter? We are in the business of moving metal around all day, every day. Especially in a heavy p2p operation. DEN is not on an island. It’s connected to the network. They all have to flow into each other or else we would need 1600 airplanes just run the operation as is. We are in a low margin business. Ain’t gonna happen. Allegiant and Frontier do that though. Again I feel for you guys but trying to skin the scheduling cat in “turns” is kinda far fetched. Rigs are just as much to blame for this as is RON stuff. It forces the cost of keeping you DEN with soft pay scenarios vs displacing you which costs nothing. That equation has to change to modify the behavior of the company. You have been long enough to know that the only thing that creates change around here is real costs. That’s all they know.
can’t say I’ve ever had an overnight 3x on the same trip in another base and done turns that credited over 9 on days 2 and 3….in over 20 years of flying 121.
maybe it’s a thing here…I’ve just never seen it…especially for the majority of trips in a line bid out of a base where the majority of those displaced out of DEN were sent to. Maybe they’re trying to do us a solid…or they’re ****ing those off who want turn lines because we refused to make it a % of a base bid pack vs system bid.
LGA turns are day trips as long as I was based there just like CUN, SJD, PVR turns. Just like MCO-SJU turns are likely MCO based…I’ve never done it as a west coast based pilot. Never done PUJ overnights either…we don’t see them. Or AUA, or any other Caribbean turn. Never seen it on the DEN bid pack. You can call it “efficiency”…but how well do
you think it would go over in MCO. BWI, HOU, etc if the high credit turns typically specific to those bases suddenly got farmed out to another base? Can’t see how that is cheaper..if it were it would’ve been staffed by other bases long before April ‘26.
Not sure what CO did to Sutcliffe in a previous life but I wouldn’t **** on him if he were on fire. And that’s being nice.