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Old 04-26-2026 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Lerxst
United guy here, just wondering what the difference is between your Ocean Crossing language and our Global?

on Global flights (and any non Global single or multiple DH segments over 8:00) we will always be in Business, and the company will oversell to place us there. Contract was written when we still had First Class now everything is Business.

Here is our language.
  • Positive space required: When on-line deadheading on a Global Flight, you must be booked positive space. (Section 5-C-2)
  • Cabin you must be booked in: You must be booked Business Class if available at booking; if not available then First Class if available. If neither is available, the Company must overbookBusiness (or First if there is no Business cabin) to accommodate you. (Section 5-C-2)
  • No downgrade to economy: If you’re booked/overbooked under this provision, you may not be downgraded to Economy (including Economy Plus). “In no case” can you be required to deadhead in Economy/Economy Plus under 5-C-2. (Section 5-C-2)
  • If you’re booked in First: You can only be downgraded to Business using the specific procedure in 5-C-1-e. (Section 5-C-2)
Related (often comes up with long DH): if the deadhead leg is >8:00 (or consecutive deadheading in the duty period is >8:00), the booking has to follow the Section 5-C-2provisions. (Section 5-C-1-b
that sounds functionally similar to ours. The only major difference I can think of is ocean crossing is a theater thing, so LAX-HNL would require a D1 seat for us even though it’s less than 8:00 block.

I would have to look again but I think we are required to be accommodated in the highest class of service. But that seems to have the same result as your language
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