Originally Posted by
11atsomto
You know ......looking at my lanyard I have this blue/yellow card attached to it, on the yellow side it says: Discuss threats First; Personal? Environmental? Technical?..........which Ugleual's technique of avoiding 29 if his callsign includes heavy is a great example of filtering the current flights circumstances through a layer of threats be they personal, environmental or technical.
The narrative of some here seems to be that NO threats ever exist for any approach, as long as its line selectable and its on there ATIS well (kind of like the 91 guys who can legally take off in 0 and 0, does it mean they should do it)....which is strange to hear.......you see if I had an Indian Rupee for every time I heard a United callsign request the ILS in place of the RNP that hey had just been issued........ which usually is just a result of people not being situationally aware to correlate that it is very foreseeable if not probable since their STAR terminates in a downwind...they have briefed the wrong approach and in order to do so now workload would increase at a critical time...........but see that still is TEM, albeit a an error not a threat.
Happens all the time, for reasons both foreseeable in hindsight and not. AA rushing to get down for a no time to spare RW change at Cali for example. Experienced crews can & do fall behind the path sometimes. Tough lesson. Unnerving for more than a few line dogs most definitely. Oh look, here comes light pole Larry