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Old 05-09-2026 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by 11atsomto
Let me throw this hypothetical out there for you.

You are in the left seat and have just upgraded to the 75/76 from the 320...cause now you can finally hold good stuff. You consolidated but still kind of new.....so you are not yet "Blue", but otherwise very experienced as far as the company goes.. You are operating domestic unaugmented 764 to EWR. Your FO has more time on the airframe than you but she has less than 2 years on property, (she used the vacancy during her indoc and never flew the narrow body for UAL). It's her leg and she asks if you could request 22L....as she hasnt yet done 29 in the 764, only once as PM on the 757. You say "Oh come on it's nothing I've done it hundreds of times on the a320, it's so easy to do, I don't know why we make such a big deal about it. There is a first time for everything you are gonna have to do it eventually."......she succumbs to your occupational peer pressure and accepts it reluctantly. Then you hit a light pole. Imagine how you sound on that CVR........
Three points,

If I’m the Captain, and she doesn’t want to fly the 29 approach, I’d take it from her, and demo it, talk her through it since she’s obviously hesitant to fly it for whatever reason. Perhaps if She/He has seen it before, the anxiety about it will diminish. But a red flag in my book concerning the F/O’s reluctance.

The F/O isn’t a rookie…United didn’t hire her with 250 hrs, I’d assume she was a captain somewhere else before United hired her. If she wasn’t, that could be where the problem lies.

I flew the C-17 in the Air Fiorce . That big Fu#@er could land on a 3500 ft runway at over 500,000 Lbs, with 1000 ft to spare, ALL day long,! Part of the reason we could do that was we had a 500 ft box to land in and if you didn’t it was an automatic go-around. The other reason was massive and effective brakes, which we manually operated as soon as the mains touched down, I’m talking pressing on those brake pedals as hard as your legs can stand. Reason I bring this up, is both the 767/757 can give you impresssivly short landing distances, using manual braking, and you won’t get hot brakes if done smoothly. The auto brakes are great, but if you really want to slow the jet down max manual, or max auto brakes will do the trick.
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