A big reason that isn’t talked about much that I’d avoid this place as a young guy/gal is the bid packs.

The MEM 777 bid pack is riddled with 13 day trips that have multiple 18-20 hour layovers in them. Think you’re going to have a good time in Tokyo on your 18 hour layover ? How about Paris for 18 hours?

Im not saying it’s a party at United on the 787 BUT they do work less. I have to do a 13 day trip next month. My buddy, with the same hire date at CAL which became UAL is a senior LAX 787 FO. He flys 9 x days per month. LAX to SYD, 24 hour layover, then back to LAX. He lives in domicile (which I do not) so of course that makes his life easier. But I’m working a full 4 x days a month more than he is for the same credit hours (and a lower hourly rate even under the new TA)

Another problem about our long international pairings is, you can’t count on flying them as advertised. I was in Darwin’s one time and heard a Kalitta guy talking to an Alaska guy about their schedules. Kalitta has hard line bidding, just like we do. But the Kalitta guy said “when you bid a schedule here, what you’re actually doing is telling the company which 17 days, which can be extended to 20 without your consent, you are able to work. You’re not actually going to fly anything even resembling that trip”

As we become more Atlas/Kalitta with respect to international flying, is that something you want to deal with over a 30 year career? Again, I’m talking 777 flying only. The 767 guy who bids a line flying MEM-JAX-MEM over and over is likely going to fly with that schedule. But this is no longer true on the 777