This is where I got my "facts"

https://crewroom.alpa.org/DesktopMod...1068&TabId=202

Let me save you some time. Overall, 43% in favor of eliminating Age 60, 54% were opposed. IF it became evident that there was going to be a change, 62% wanted to drop opposition/modify ALPAs longstanding opposition. While 36% wanted to oppose it to the bitter end. (Remarkably similar to the FDA numbers---and the FDX results were within a percent of the ALPA numbers I quoted)


And, on the semantics of "allowed". Sorry, if my perception seems callous or indifferent to the turmoil of this excess bid. But, it's just business. For the bottom guy in every window seat, someone Senior to them made a conscious decision not to bid for that slot. Nobody "Forced" that person to take advantage of an early upgrade. The ability to bid QOL is a big benefit to our contract, and I personally hope it is never replaced by an up or out system.

I just don't agree that it's unfair somehow that someone JR is being forced back to a lower paying seat. The people I feel bad for or the PNs who were hired into Anchorage and are going to windup back in the planet.
But, again, it's just business. Nor is it an unprecendented event in the airline industry.

Pre internet bubble, I had buds hired into window seats at the pax carries, get downsized into the FE slot, then furloughed once 9-11 hit after the rapid retirement of the 727
I've got way too many buds on the bubble to being unemployed, again, to agree with folks that we have to shoot DW or ALPO because I'm taking a paycut.