Originally Posted by
DigDug
So you're saying a brain dead Airbus is just like a Boeing?
Essentially. You have to trim. You have to use rudder. You have to move the thrust levers... so yes, like a Boeing.
Do we have more material?
Nope.. just that it was interesting to fly with one of the Airbus guys at Toulouse and see some things that we never got close to in training. There is a lot of stuff buried on all the automated airplanes and it is never revealed or demonstrated in training. We see the results rpeatedly in the NASA ASRSs. I am reminded of the old axiom of maturing on automated airplanes
Stage 1 -1-3 months "Why is it doing THAT?"
Stage 2 3-6 months "I've NEVER seen that before!!"
Stage 3 6months forward, "Yeah.. it does that sometimes..."
Also, on this point, I doubt many Boeing 737 drivers fully understand the alpha floor. We covered it because of the way we were training for non-precision approaches which at that time, we were using the dive and drive. I understand they have changed that...
If anybody can slide down an ILS to ATP standards on THS and rudder I'll buy the sim time to see that!
Me too and that was my comparison to manual reversion in the Boeing and NO law in the Airbus. Both are a real handful. The secret is to configure early, trim up early and make only minor changes when absolutely necessary.
In training, the problem is always time and to cover all the mandatory stuff that invariably gets added, one has no time to really cover some other stuff. My last sim on the 737, I got my instructor to let me fly the entire ride single engine.. takeoffs, approaches, misses, etc. It was a fun ride...