Not much hiring. Look at domestic loads and how they are decreasing and then look at the statment last week that international growth is starting to slow. With oil and the US domestic economy the way it is, aisa and the rest of the world will soon follow the US slowdown and vice versa. It's been that way for the last 20 years. I think this DHL deal will maybe take in the poolies, but will save UPS from having to furlough. Remember it takes about three qts in the business world to feel the effects on price increases. We will see in 2009 that UPS vol is down in all sectors. For the bottom couple hundred this DHL is a life saver, cross your fingers. Not doom and gloom just look around and save your pennies. Also, if you talk to manpower planning they they we are 80 fat, while the union says 200 short. So the truth lies somewhere in the middle. It seems that with the 98 over 65 guys who have come back and the retirement of four 8's in the last 5 months along with the US/world economy we might just be even. You know that the boys in ATL are running the numbers about this fuel thing and estimating how much vol will fall. That being said I think we will be lucky to see more then the poolies come on board. Hope I'm wrong, but I have a bad feeling about what's in store for all of us next year.