Well said TH1. Even though none of the pilots on either side has any control over this deal, it does sting when someone posts a sentiment that appears to hope for the end of so many other pilot's careers. For those of us on the wrong side of this deal, every month that an agreement between UPS and DHL is delayed means a couple more decent paychecks before the door slams shut. While I certainly don't wish for any junior UPS guys to be furloughed, odds are, they will eventually be recalled. When ABX and ASTAR guys get the letter, it will be forever. Think how it would have sounded when Eastern or Pan Am were disappearing if Delta or American pilots were heard in public saying they were looking forward to getting the extra passengers.