Originally Posted by andy171773

We called out on time at 759 this evening on our way to cleveland. Sat at the gate until 9pm, finally pushed. Then proceeded to taxi until ELEVEN THIRTY.

3.5 hours from door closed to wheels up

No idea what happened, i know there was a runway change involved and it POURED for a good amount of time with CBs in the area.

There was a line that ran from the departure end of 4L up Kilo and bending all the way down to the departure end of 13L.
Then another line started where B veers off and becomes P to the departure end of 13L.
Then ANOTHER line starting at N and going all the way down Q to the departure end of 13L.

Get your charts out if you don't know it, it's like SIX MILES of airplanes.

Good times, I think we were 100+ in line at the worst time.

Oh, and when we took off, there were still airplanes all the way down 13L, and on P and Q. So probably another 100+....LOOONG night in JFK.

What would've made things worse is that we almost had to go back to the gate because of an unruly passenger AND because of min fuel (we called dispatch).

Why dispatch thought 600 lbs of taxi fuel would do it is beyond me, but hey..they probably get paid more than the FOs.