Originally Posted by
NuGuy
Hi TSquare,
Probably not. The feeling around here is that JPWA corrected a mistake, and that MAYBE we were all pulling from the same side of the rope. Moak and company preached on and on that LOA wasn't about leverage or getting the upper hand or selling the NWA guys out, and followed through with the JPWA. Thus SOME semblance of trust was starting to develop.
Was it perfect? No. I, for one, wish that we had cherry picked more items, but there is always time for that down the road. "Mid-term" corrections are ALWAYS possible.
Should the JPWA be voted down, then the NWA guys will assume that it was all BS, that the typical line guy at DAL is representitive the stereotype. The NWA MEC and negotiators will proceed to cut the BEST possible deal for their own pilot group and hunker down for a year or more of detailed, painstaking, and expensive arbitration.
Tens, if not hundereds of million of dollars in benefits will be lost. RA will realize that he cannot trust the DAL pilot leadership to fully represent the
"will of the pilot group" and may instead will turn a group whose motivations he better understands.
The careful "bridging" that has occurred will be lost, and suspicion will reign among "blue tail" and "red tail" for the next 20 years.
Just a hunch...
Nu
Just what "mistake" was corrected? YOUR mistake of hanging onto a DB retirement while giving up work rules, and pay and....? Or is it viewed the JCBA corrects the "mistake" of LOA 19 and the FACT that your MEC decided not to join in while the time was truly right? So the way I am seeing this is that IF the DAL pilots vote this down, the NWA pilots will view us as the guys in the black hats.... again. (no pun intended) OR , more likely you now see LOA 19 for what it was, a DELTA contract modification that your MEC had nothing to do with, and it lifted you up to what we are now voting on. So I guess it's all about you then. Newsflash, it's NOT all about you. The problems that most guys I talk to have with this agreement have NOTHING to do with NWA. I'll say that again in case you don't understand it... it has NOTHING to do with NWA. Most guys I hear that are voting no on this agreement do not like many things about it.. terms... the length of time before DC contributions kick in... there are more. And FYI, I am probably voting yes simply because I don't really see any advantage in voting no, but I understand the no side of the equation.