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Old 08-07-2008 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
Heyas Bograt,

It's because the perception is that DAL guys don't read the contract past section 2 (compensation) and it's as if you guys measure the size of your John Thomas by the amount on your W-2.

Over on the NWA side, it's more about QoL and other non-pay rate issues. Sick pay, DC contribution, insurance, max duty day, minimum rest, reserve days, premium pay, instructors/training, call-in-honest/jumpseat, etc.

We've tried to point out some of these things, but all any of the DAL guys want to do is look at the W2 and shout "windfall! windfall!", when it is, in fact, close to a push.

Since there was no constructive dialog going on, we decided to wash our laundry in private. But don't blame us if you hang dirty skivvies on the line outside, and we point to it.

In reality, I'd MUCH rather have the NWA PWA with raises/tweaks than the DAL contract with the JPWA. That option was not presented to me (yet), so I will vote on the option that WAS presented to me, which was a good alternate.

Nu
Evidently your MEC didn't agree with you, as they settled on the (DAL negotiated) virtual LOA19 terms after only (a record, I'm sure..) TWO WEEKS!! Your insistence that it is "close to a push" is just that--YOUR insistence--no other NWA poster I've seen has implied that your old contract and the new JPWA is a "push". Nuguy, neither you (nor your airline) can take the credit for the noticable improvements (that your side, in particular) received in the JPWA---so you have to insist that it is "not that good of a deal"----Yet you defend it slavishly to the DAL pilots......but we don't believe you because you say it is a "push" with your OLD contract....Imagine how much more we would oppose this contract if it were actually "a push, or roughly equivalent" to your old contract....Your psychology reminds me of what was said about Ted Kennedy in the 1980 presidential elections: "Ted Kennedy doesn't want to be President of the United States--he just doesn't want anybody else to be President of the United States"
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