Originally Posted by
jmoney
Thank goodness......
That money is for our retirement....
It wouldn't have come out of your 401k.
Originally Posted by
rickair7777
Must be the 55% that don't use their 401k

Not entirely true. There were some who voted for this which would have affected their dues.
Originally Posted by
stobelma
Does it really matter. Thats great that they voted it down but guess what, ALPA needs money, so dues are now most likely going to go up. I agree that on the fact that there needs to be some paycuts. Our highest representative should make no more than the highest paid member. I have heard different things for the compensation packages for these guys and I have nothing that I would ever consider turning down. The industry takes cuts and so should ALPA.
I believe that the next step now will be to ask for a higher dues percentage. As for paycuts, the president is the only one who actually gets paid by ALPA. I don't necessarily disagree with giving that position a paycut. Maybe if you feel strongly about it you could propose a resolution. If you are talking about staff, they are under a collective bargaining agreement. ALPA will need to wait until their contract amendable date comes around for those paycuts.
Originally Posted by
IADBLRJ41
Wasn't it based upon if the carrier already had some form of pension other than 401K? Like UAL has a C Plan, and a 401K. Wasn't their 401K was already taxed??
I can see why some carriers voted for the measure when it would not directly impact their own paycheck.
I might be wrong too but that was my understanding.
Ironic you should mention UAL. They voted 4485-2052 against it. Their dues actually subsidize MECs' such as XJ (who all voted for this even though it would have meant more dues from their pilots). If all of them would have voted for this, it would have passed!