"High improbable"? Well, since this EXACT situation happened with our flight attendants around this time last year, I would say "extremely probable." Obviously Ms. Ashley Mosher thinks we know less about the happenings at our own company than we should.

Colgan would, as they clearly demonstrated last year with the FAs.

Colgan is willing to allow a union without us fighting for it, because they KNOW that at this point, it's inevitable - there are way too many disgruntled pilots who learned their lesson throughout this year, and Colgan knows this. Colgan is willing to allow Teamsters, because otherwise they will have a pilot group represented by ALPA. It is the lesser of the two evils for them. The lesser of two evils for THEM, not for us PILOTS. Remember, we do not have the same goals as Colgan in the regard that we want PROTECTION from their abuses... do you want protection from a union that is essentially endorsed by the Colgan? And you have to ask yourself, why DOES Colgan prefer Teamsters over ALPA? Because they care about us and want us to save 6 bucks per month on Teamsters dues rather than ALPA dues? Or because Teamsters is by far the more powerless union and Colgan could negotiate a crappier contract with us being Teamsters?

In other words, "if Colgan was willing to allow Teamsters on the property without you fighting for it, would you really need them?" My point EXACTLY. Would you really want the management's union of choice? Would that even be a union at all?

This Teamsters letter keeps on emphasizing in the first few paragraphs that they take the opportunity to gain representation very seriously, and how their own goal is 65% vote instead of the standard 50+1, because they want to be that much more certain of our support.. YET they include in their vote cards this clause that could make them our union by default, without us pilot ever voting for them. That is a pretty STARK contradiction between what they're telling us in this letter, and what they're actually doing with those cards. If Teamsters truly wants to be fair like they're claiming to be, why don't they take that deceptive clause out of those authorization cards... so they can't give Colgan the option to recognize Teamsters without an election.

This letter is truly insulting. Contradictions abound if you take the time to read every line. It's really annoying how they attempt to be so factual about this 'representation without an election is highly improbable' BS. I KNOW it will convince some pilots who haven't been here a year and aren't aware of the flight attendants union situation. At the very least, this Teamsters lady needs to start writing better letters... not all of us are stupid enough to be convinced by blatant contradictions and lies.

yup.