Originally Posted by
SaltyDog
DWB,
The ultra senior 60+ generally won't be able to cash in. Recall that once you are 63, UPS does not contractually have to train you (Bypass: Art 14.3)for a new seat. Also, since they took an upgrade from S/O to F/O or Capt, they incurred a 12 month transition freeze, same seat to seat incurs a 24 month transition freeze. (Art 14.E.2.c), Example: the 60+ year old 747-400 F/O's incurred a seat lock (Transistion Freeze). Very few of these folks just turned 60. Many by either transition freeze or natural age, will be beyond 63 next year when vacancies occur. This means that will be ineligible for recurring vacancies. (Seats opened up by the domino effect of displacements or original vacancies). They would be eligible for original vacancies, however, the age 63 clock still applies thus voiding for the majority (by company choice) their ability to train in a new seat. Thus, I see the opportunities for the rest of the group, generally benfitting the more junior. Most of the mid seniority folks are just not really in play unless they are looking for a life change. Generally low turnover though in these levels. (50% F/O for example). Also, the folks that are now turning 60 generally will sit where they are and will not change the shuffle (other than delay another upgrade for the next 5 years.

) In any case, the 767's showing up won't see many of the 60+ folks moving like we did with the original 74 vacancies and 74 legacy displacements. That one time event is over.
SD,
Didn't the company say that they will train whomever that bids the front seat regardless of age?
I thought I heard someone posted something about a guy on IOE on the -400 that is 64 yrs old.