If we know what the problems are i.e. whipsawing labor groups, showing up for peanuts, a thousand CFI's waiting to take our jobs for said peanuts etc., why are fighting over all the reasons? Instead, lets look for solutions to the biggest five reasons to our wage problem. Someone with more forum knowledge should set up a poll on many of the reasons, majority vote for your five, then we all work on solutions together instead of fighting amongst ourselves. This has to start out grass roots with all of us promoting it, in an educational fashion, in order to make changes that will better all of our lives. A huge undertaking but hey we went from never flying to getting metal to Mars in just over 100 years!