Thanks for elaborating ATP,

I do the same thing. My logic was we all know tripple 7 so quadruple seemed logical....I think it is safe to assume no disrespect meant rickair, atp, or myself. It is hard to tell what people are saying on these threads sometimes because text has no emotion or manerisms that are common with live interaction.

hah..kind of funny how as I am looking at it now we have 6 posts that have taken this thread out into left field...i will step down off my soapbox and allow someone else to put us back on centerline