You not insulting ATP, I don't care what people think of them. It is just the fact that you made a comment without knowing the facts of how we operate here as instructors. If I am going to comment on something, I at least learn the facts or find out from someone who does if I cannot find the answers myself. I am just sick of people on the forums who say that people who work for ATP are just buying there way into the airlines, and they act like they can't go to a school just like this. I think for the most part some people are just upset that they didn't do something like ATP. It is a smart way to get yourself moving in the right direction. If ATP instructors can't teach, then how can they pass an FAA checkride in the first place if they don't know what they are doing. We checkout with the same DPEs that everyone else uses. If I couldn't teach, I wouldn't have a 95% pass rate out of over 40 checkrides that I have done for people. I know that it doesn't take brains to fly straight and level, but that is not what we teach here. The only time these guys get to fly straight and level for extended periods of time is during the cross country time building phase.