Originally Posted by
TheBills
Let me just correct the last part of your statement. XJT management wanted 6% not 20% from our pilot group, management took a 10% pay cut as well. Our union and management came together and realized that this was an appropriate step for now, it is essentially a pay freeze for us per the LOA. Mesa is far from the top tier regionals but should be right up there, so get what you want now for the sake of all regional carriers. I would laugh if JO wanted concessions.
I'd laugh about that too!
Sorry for the mis-information. I was told from a relatively good source that it was about 20%. It's awful how things get misconstrued so easily. My bad!!!
As far as the rest of the comments go, I agree, and I would like to vote no on this TA (which I very well may do, I just want the pilots to see it first, and talk to them about it). I just want everyone to have an open mind abut this until they do actually see this. I think, especially after the recent turnover in management, we could possibly make more headway on this and get more.
As far as my misinformation, and I may be wrong, but I'm under the impression that if we vote no on this TA, then they have to scrap the entire document and when they go back to the table it must be done all over from scratch. I'm also really concerned that mgmt would laugh at us and just say no. At what point will we be getting the most from the company before they just flat out say no. I've heard some comments like "Well, I'd rather deal with this contract we have now until we get the one we really want!" I am pretty positive we can't get everything we want this time around. I also would like something much better between now, and the time we can get the best contract. Something that will really help us out right now.
I'm only a second year F/O, and while my pay hasn't been miserable (okay it has been, but I have good parents) I still need to make more money. That being said, I have never picked up opentime, because I don't believe in it. If there was a time when I needed to, it would be right now. I certainly will NOT pick up open time when we have guys on furlough. Having this contract will allow me to bring home a little bit more, while having a better schedule.
I'm trying to be as pro-pilot as I can be, but I also try to understand where management comes from as well (although it usually requires too much effort and I give up most of the time). I'm relatively new at all this sort of stuff, so I'm still trying to make sense of it. A lot of you guys are really familiar with situations like this, and I'm just looking at it very sensibly and trying not to go too far in depth with it. I'm not by any means trying to sell us short, but I just want things to get better, and I'm wondering if this isn't a good chance for all of us to make some serious progress in a time where it could very well go the other way. I mean hell, if they furlough any more pilots I'm pretty sure I'll be in that group.
