[QUOTE=Pilot7576]Trashhauler..

Either you're shining people on or you really haven't done any research over there where the grass is supposedly greener. But you'll make a lot of junior fo's happy here if you bail to fredex. And maybe you'll be able to fly with the gal with the sock puppet over there..she sounds like a hoot.

Au contraire, mon frere! I have studied both UPS and FedEx in detail and although UPS financials are unmatched, FedEx in my opinion has the vision to continue to succeed. Although no place is perfect, Fred seems to take better care of the folks, even if the underlying reason is to keep the pilot's union at bay. We as a union have done to ourselves what UPS has tried to do since the IPA was founded. We are badly fractured and unable to reach a consensus on virtually anything. When this POS TA passes by a slim margin, the icing will be on the cake and the union will be immasculated for at least the duration of the contract plus the usual 3+ year negotiating period. At that point I'll be retired and the point will be moot. Sorry to sound so negative, but sometime its better to cut your losses and start over.