Originally Posted by
maddogmax
1. I was hired in 01/85 and am currently a 330CA. My senority # is 8XX. When I look at the proposed list, I will be # 22xx with the first person hired after me (09/85) at Delta will be #3xx . That is my relative seniority question.
2. There are many pilots on the proposed list that would be way senior to me that are currently flying as B737 or B757 CA's. How does that fit into the Category argument?
Not trying to put fuel on the fire as we have yet to see the NWA proposed list but just trying to see how this list would be "fair and equaitable". I greatly appreciate any constructive response
First off, I am done arging DOH vs relative position. The DL and NW pilots disagree. We know that and arguing about it won't solve a thing. I will try to explain the questions you have asked, and I will try to leave any emotion out.
For number one, by a relative position argument you go in the list based on what you can hold, not your DOH. Ignore DOH for the purposes of looking at the Delta proposal. The people who end up around you on the list are likely holding the same thing you are.
For number two, as ACL said, there was a "stovepipe" applied. In other words, lets say Delta has 200 777 captains (don't know the actual number off the top of my head). For the sake of list construction, the first 200 guys on the Delta list are considered 777 captains, even though not all of them have actually chosen to utilize their seniority to bid that position. I know for a fact we have some pilots in the top 200 who are 73N captains.
As to how this list would be fair and equitable, I would say it is our position that it puts everyone on the list in the equivalent position as pilots who hold similiar equipment and have similar long term prospects.
I know for me personally, looking at the NWA guys right around me (+/- say 100 numbers) on the DL proposed list, they are all flying the same equipment as the DL guys right around me on the list, junior-mid level narrowbody captain or senior widebody FO.