"Way to man up TW. Good luck to you."

I'd have a hard time saying that seeing as how Tony was a SAPA rep and was rabidly anti-ALPA during his time as a Skywest crewmember. The very organization/contract he fought against could have saved his career at Skywest. Now, he's got a job in Yemen and he's looking here at APC for advice on checklists. You reap what you sow....

For the record. I think up or out is dumb. Anyone who fails training should get to go back to his last seat for a time. Unions help negotiate these sort of things.