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Old 10-25-2008 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by YAKflyer
First I am surprised they would allow the same individual to evaluate you for two consecutive failures. Most professional programs would require you to be evaluated by two different examiners.

Ya know, I really thought about that. I was resigned to defeat, after such a brutal blow in the oral. I even told the guy that I didn't expect that he would pass me on the sim after the performance on the oral.

But, I agree. It should be company policy that the examiner is changed, not necessarily because he can't be impartial (heck, there's no pressure on him... just another day at the office), but it adds pressure on the trainee in an already amped up experience.



Additionally I find it extremely arbitrary for the third strike to be a decision to not allow you to attempt to pass whatever event would come next. I for the life of me can not see how that constitutes a strike. It seems to me the company is in violation of their own policy. For the company to then not allow you to resign is incredible, but not really surprising.

Not signing the trainee off for a retake is in SP-315 as a strike, so they did follow their policy. The policy, by the way, that is approved by SAPA, and that by my guess, at least half the SAPA reps would still support.

I will offer one super chicken sh*t response when I was told I wouldn't be given another oral or sim check ride. He actually said that the FAA would want to be there since it was a retake, and suggested somehow that was a problem for SkW, or him personally, or the man on the moon. I kinda felt like knocking the *sshole on his *sshole after that statement. He also offered a bunch of issues that I had previously in training as reasons, when I offered that I thought that was the purpose of training. The next check ride is where I need to shine.

I still can't really believe they didn't let me re-take, when the examiner was right there. I mean literally right there. Sitting in the same room, getting ready to give my sim partner his checkride. Since no other classes were planned, and there were two less people in our class than were originally planned for, there was no sim schedule issues. It was wide open, and my retake was actually scheduled for the next morning. My IOE was still scheduled.

I'm sure SkW EMB guys would know him. John XXX, San Diego based, short, kinda of loud voice for a short guy. He just got up, sorta grunted, and left the room. Never said jack squat... no good luck, hey, sorry to see that, let's see what we can do, not even goodbye. Real people person.



Maybe D.D. can give you the name of the lawyer who represented him.....

Perhaps. Not sure how much headache and money I'd want to expend to get a somewhat low paying job!!!

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