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Old 11-06-2008 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by UNDGUY
"only improvements are block or better and 11 days off for reserve"

First off you left out line guarantees which is huge. You make it sound like block or better isn't a big deal. Block or better is an enormous deal for Mesa. Read some old posts on here, everyone said JO will never give up block or better. Ask the guys in ORD, IAD, or JFK how important block or better is to them. You say "pathetic raises." The 2.1% in 2010 may not seem like much, but the block or better will equate to a huge raise for lots of guys that spend more time taxing and sitting in the penalty box than flying. 11 days off for reserves is also a huge improvement. I realize that the people who are on here saying "burn it down" or "vote no" without even seeing the TA probably aren't on reserve but I am and an extra 30 days off a year sounds pretty good to me. I have read the TA and I think it is a big improvement to what we have now. Despite what someone else said on this thread I don't think we are in a very good position to negotiate with the economy the way it is and the airline in the financial situation it is in right now. The only downside I see to this TA is the PBS with almost no restrictions or guidelines for the company, which I acknowledge as a huge downside but I think it is manageable for 22 months until we start negotiating again. Go to the roadshows, get informed on the how's and why's of the TA, look at the charts that alpa has showing how this TA would compare to other regionals and you can come to your own conclusions. My conclusion is that this is going to be an improvement for the pilots in a time when most other regionals are taking concessions and furloughs so I think it is worth doing. Raise the house slowly my friends.
You obviously are new, otherwise you would see that this contract is a slap in the face.

You do understand that PBS, line guarantee and block or better are tied together, don't you? Meaning if we decide we don't like PBS and end it, we lose block or better, and line guarantee.

Here are some other cons to help you see what a piece of trash it is:

1)No per diem rate increase - remains 1.30/hr.
2)No min guarantee for line-holders - only reserves are guar. 70 hours/month
3)increased training note
4)PBS
5) required flight check-in - must check in now for trips at least 2 hours prior
6) no trip trade or pick-up out of domicile - we can do this right now
7) Reduction in guarantee pay over the year (910 hours versus 909.96) - due to PBS
8)Loss of pay override for VOL pick-up - open time currently pays 150%
9)inability to decline a standing bid award - something we can do now
10) still 50% DH pay
11) A 2% raise for F/O's in 2010

The biggest for me:
200% pay for "improper reassignments." That's the company saying, "we'll pay you 200% when we violate this contract."

If it weren't for block or better, this contract could be worse than the one we work under right now.
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