Originally Posted by BoilerUP
So what then about the clause in Chautauqua's contract that if American cancels the contract prior to its end (2013 I believe) they have to eat the cost of all the 140s? Of course its cheaper to operate a current contract than absorb the cost of a bunch of airplanes!
That has nothing to do with any TWE contract prior to the TWA acquisition. I'm pretty sure that contract was signed by AMR (and fought against by the union) AFTER the TWA fiasco. Therefore, it was a contract that AMR entered into, not one they absorbed via TWA. And like JiffyLube said, AMR got TWA AFTER bankruptcy in order to shed ALL debt and vendor contracts that they did not want. Why do you think that anyone who had TWA stock got ZERO for it when AMR took over?
Nope, never said it was okay to screw anybody, and I don't work for Trans States or Chautauqua so that is a moot point as well. We could argue about how AA screwed TWA pilots, but that horse has been beaten so long ago its not even important. Same can be said about the flushbAAcks taking all the upgrades at Eagle.
Then why do you even argue the issue if you don't or never have had a dog in that fight? Also, I'm not a big AA supporter, but the TWA guys really are lucky to even have a job. If AA didn't come along and no one financed TWA (which I'm pretty sure would have been the case) those folks would have been on the street. How is getting a job, and in some cases getting a regional jet Captain job with more pay than at TWA a bad deal? Please explain that? Lastly on this point, some if not all Eagle guys (FOs really) are ****ed about the flowbacks, but that is the union and pilot group's fault for allowing it to happen the way it did.
I'm not in any of the sandboxes mentioned, I just think it’s asinine for some pilots to say "hey Eagle got screwed by Trans States, so its okay for GoJet to screw them". That logic fails the WTF test every single time.
Then what is your motivation to argue your points, and how can you competently discuss/debate the issues of AA/Eagle/TWA/TWEs if you have never been "in any of the sandboxes". Obviously you can't by your lack of knowledge of what went down with the whole AMR/TWA thing.
You are very miss informed about the whole "alter ego" - Connection carriers, and the TWA acquisition. While I don't agree with the whole GoJets deal, I really don't feel too bad for TSA guys or any other Connection carrier that has flying handed to a lower paying "vendor". What goes around comes around. Not that its right or moral, but it is business and to have the cojones to b!tch about what is being done to TSA when they do the same to others is just hypocritical.