Originally Posted by STILL GROUNDED
...We always logged it SP for the put the persons name next too it. Do not log the landing, but the 1.7 counts for PIC this will be important if you have the opportunity to fly 135 with only 1200 hours. I believe you need 500 PIC, and nobody is going to care where you got it. It will also be helpful if you are in a position to need an ATP at 1500 hours. There are a lot of guys who get burned on this too late and that much time is hard to cram...
250 hours PIC (including some x-c and night PIC time).
In fact this is exacty the purpose of 14 CFR part 61.51(e). It's there to allow the logging of PIC time for advanced certificates, specifically the commercial and ATP. In fact, 61.51(e)(1) states right in the beginning "...A
recreational, private, or commercial pilot may log pilot-in-command time only...". If you have an ATP, you are not allowed to log PIC time as "sole manipulator", unless of course you are designated PIC as defined under Part 1.1.