Originally Posted by Carl Spackler

Carl, maybe I wasn't clear. I don't think that Virgin America has a large gauge narrow bodied category similar to a 757 so that wouldn't be an issue. Furthermore, VA doesn't have any wide bodied international category. If the companies are relatively the same contractually, with no major wind fall and you apply Nicolau's award, with both captains and first officers from the international wide bodied categories on top, and then all the 767/757 domestic captains and first officers, you would run through over half the list before the first VA captain got integrated. Not many 767 captains over 50% down the list. With no bump and no flush as well as some conditions ad restrictions for a modest period of time to protect the pre-merger upgrade to the A320 for VA first officers, you'd have a list that protected pre merger expectations and status. I think it's important to realize what each side brings, whether it took the VA captain 2 years or 10 years to bring that A320 Captain job to the merger, at the end of the day he brought it.