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Old 11-12-2008 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by paxhauler85
Unless I missed something, we would get paid for de-icing under the block or better provision.

No provision for repositions across the airport.

A big time NO from me, but wanted to clear up the de-ice thing. Block or better is the only improvement I see in this contract. The rest of the items are concessions.
He's getting the entire "no pay for deice" from Rick.

Originally Posted by rickair7777
Block-or-better might be nice, but the folks most impacted by that are UAX...did you guys get the word that UAL is requiring deicing at the gate, BEFORE you block out? They are enforcing this with monitors. So you shut the door, then sit at the gate for 2-3 hours waiting for the iceman...and it does not count as block. No surprise OJ gave that one up.
UAL is cracking down on out times as a way to reduce cost. Now they want to deice at the gate (meaning you don’t drop the brake until cleared for push) so they don't have the pay more in block cost and on-time bonuses. At outstations they don’t want us dropping the brake until cleared to taxi. This means that your Pre-Start, Engine Start and Pre-Taxi checklist are all done Pro Bono (although Pro Bono denotes “for the good of the public” and in this case it’s “for the good of UAL”). United actually has employees in the ramp towers tracking the out times and penalizing airlines for not adhering.

Bunch of freaking Nazi’s.
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