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Old 11-12-2008 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by wiggy
Now Carl, (-and newknow, you noodling nitwit, and Capncrunch, you clueless conveyor of claptrap) you're only stating a part of the whole story. True, the 1/1/09 and subsequent payraises are part of the JPWA and were contained in LOA 19, contingent on the merger. Notice I say contingent on the "merger" only.........and not on the "cooperation" or "contributions" of the NW pilots, which, of course, were then non-existant. (for whatever reason)...(look at Stevens' testimony)
But, your recent payraises, at DCC, (that averaged nearly 10%, BTW) are a pure move up to parity with the DL pilots. Had our existing payrates not averaged 10% higher than yours, you would not now, nor at DCC have enjoyed any such payraise. So, yes, we at DL, with great humility and a deep sense of brotherly magnanimity, accept your heartfelt expression of gratitude for your recent increase in "status". (as partially defined by ALPA merger policy)..... not a bad payraise considering the total of all your many "strenuous efforts" and "sacrificial actions" to achieve it, could be summed up as "occupying space".
Wiggy,

I'm wondering. What exactly did you do to get those magnanimous payrates that you currently enjoy?

I mean to say, if you've been around long enough, you would know that a pilot groups higher payrates over another pilot group last only as long as the next contract.

In this industry, one group piggybacks off the other. It has nothing to do with your skill and everything to do with timing.

So, if you want us to thank you for our recent payraises, fine. Thanks, you guys are the greatest.

But, if thats the case, you should return that thanks to us for negotiating the first payraises of any of the pilot groups post 9/11.

-You should thank UAL for getting that huge contract in 2000.

-You should thank us (NWA) for going on strike in 1998.

-You should thank AA for the sickout they had in 1996 or 1997. (I forget)

-You should thank every other airline out there who had the jumpseat before you guys.



With all of your talk of expectant gratitude, I think you miss the big picture.

This industry and profession should not be about expecting a "thanks" from your fellow pilots. It's should be about banding together to to move forward towards advancements and increases for everyone.

For the most part EVERY pilot group has contributed something positive to the profession that the next pilot group subsequentially built upon. There is no thanks required for doing what you are supposed to do.

The sooner you realize that, the sooner your head will be able to fit thru the cockpit door.

Last edited by newKnow; 11-12-2008 at 11:32 AM.
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