Precisely my point and I hope I didn't come across otherwise. Everyone should make up their own minds based on the merits of the TA, devoid of fear and threats from their Union....otherwise, why even bother with a vote in the first place? My comments really were in response to the fact that I haven't heard anyone state that they would vote for the agreement based on it's merits....more like a resignation that it would be more painful to delay further which, IMHO, is a specious argument when you consider the history of this effort and the players involved.