Originally Posted by
satchip
No, under your proposal when a NW guy retires only NW guys move up the list, leapfrogging more senior Delta guys. Your fence proposal also ends at the precise time that the Delta retirements out number the NW ones. How many times have we heard you and others harping about "Delta benefiting from OUR retirements!"? If they are your retirements then their your jets that are being parked and your furloughs. If you want to share the pain then you have to share the gain. If we are one group then we all benefit from guys leaving at the top and we all suffer from planes leaving at the bottom.
I agree that we should just all as a group take what both sides are bringing. Unfortunately neither of us made the proposals or has a real say in it. However under the NWA proposal there would be no leap frogging in seniority numbers. Everyone would move up the list as attrition took place. What the proposal does do though is block out certain positions on BOTH sides so that only the original pilots of each airframe could bid them until the period of time expired. Therefore as attrition takes place in those positions, let say the 747 than only NWA pilots would be eligible to bid those seats. Same goes for the blocked off DAL seats. What this does is it allows the NWA side to get the benefits of our sides retirements without having the RD swooping in and taking those positions. The DAL side also has the same protections during the same period of time. Its not perfect but that was the jist of it.
Bottom line is EVERYONE moves up in numbers so there is no leap frogging of seniority. If there gets to be a point to where there arent enough people to bid those positions then the other side will be able to bid them.
Good thing is that the arbitrators have already said on a couple of occasions that neither sides list will be used so we can all look at the other sides proposal as worst case scenario.
