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Old 11-28-2008 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Splanky
Basically, you are saying 'I had it bad so should you!' If there is a way to raise the bar for the entire industry why not pursue it. I have passed the point in the career where raising pay and qol at those levels would not really impact me. However, I do not wish poverty level wages on entry-level pilots just because I had to do it.

There have been times in our industry history when mainline carriers pulled pilots directly from the streets. And there have been times when no matter how hard a person tried they couldn't break into the majors. If we don't reverse trend, it will remain difficult for regional pilots to make the jump to the majors. This is not the choice of the regional pilots (do you think they would choose lower pay and qol?).

The idea of having the smaller airplane pay-scales at the major level tied to scope is a good one. It would give the major airlines incentive to stop outsourcing their work and it would give regional pilots a chance at a reasonable living even if they aren't able to make the jump to the majors. This would be extremely difficult to push through though and would probably take strike votes from the majority of pilots at a carrier trying for this.

To blame just the regional pilots for the current state is crap. Most did not want to work in the industry with the way it is currently going. They are, however, trying to make a go of the career with the hand that has been dealt. We are all culpable for the current state; and a fix can only be made if we all work together. I doubt this will happen, though I still hope.
Doubtful is correct. I have several friend at several legacies, specifically AA, and they are sick of seeing their flying opportunities flush down the toilet because of scope. Blame it on whomever but in the end, scope takes away flying from the majors. The RJ era has done nothing pit regional A vs regional B for over a decade now in a "race to the bottom". If we haven't seen the bottom yet, well that's scary the RJ pay is pathetic. Maintain scope, maintain mainline is the only way to move us back to where we used to be. And it may take some mainline strikes to get it. The original post was about RJs flying mainline routes for RJ wages. Sooner or later thats got to stop. Regional flying should be just that, regional....see Cape Air (nicely run, nicely paid little outfit).
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