Originally Posted by
kalyx522
So. At first it sounded like you left Colgan because you didn't like it:
But your subsequent posts show that you had all in all a pretty positive experience. So why did you leave? Or did you not leave at all? Because it sure seems like you are still at Colgan, and actually you sound a lot like this captain I know. Or did you even ever work at Colgan as a pilot? Either way, you're not fooling anyone.
If your opinion is such that unions are bad, fine, that is your opinion. Honestly though, you need to rethink your strategies. If you want to convince someone of your opinion, don't threaten or give ultimatums. (see "if you dont like your job then leave!!!!!!") You turn more people against you than not this way.
If you want to sound intelligent, attack the argument, not the person. (see "in my experience... the people that wanted unions the most were the most incompetent.") I know what you're doing, and it's very transparent - trying to weaken someone's argument by attacking them personally... but you know what, any tool can say, "Abortions are bad because the people that want abortions are dumb." or "Abortions are good because the people who opppose them are dumb." Are you a tool? I didn't think so, so let's stick to intelligent arguments.
And finally...
Does it matter if you'd ever vote or not vote? Bottom line is you aren't an eligible voter in this election, you can't vote, and you won't be affected by the outcome. Not like you're still at Colgan or anything.
you can try and poke holes in me all you want. but i believe i have done a pretty good job of attacking the arguments concerning the unions.
The bottom line is this: The unions number one priority is to get more money for their pilots, which in turn makes more money for them. they will squeeze the life out of colgan if they can. and from the sound of it, that is what is driving the vote from the pilots, for the most part.
The idea that the pilots are not represented is false. there are lawyers on every corner of every street on this country. If there are so many people that need representation, maybe you should all pitch in and hire one.
There is a lot of complaining going on, but if you really look around and ask around, there are a few pilots out there that are actually in trouble. that wont change when the unions come. pilots are still going to get in trouble. If anything, the unions may help to keep a pilot on that otherwise may need to be fired. they do this by a use of force and intimidation. they force the idea that it is less expensive to let the pilot fly rather than fire him/her and face a law suite from the union. Does this promote saftey?????
i will say it again. you can get what you want without a union.