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Old 12-15-2008 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by frieswiththat
The "real issue" is the fact that most of us at Colgan really do care about the future of the company and our own livelyhood as well. A pay raise is well down the list... the issue is primarily about obtaining work rules and quality of life, as well as the legal representation aspect. ALPA has proven through many examples its value to our industry time and time again.

You must understand supposedly having worked for Colgan that the company will amend policy on a regular basis to suit its needs. ALPA is not a quick fix or end-all, but it's certainly superior to what currently exists.

I'm not posting to convince you of this since you've made up your mind on the issue; nor have you convinced me that I made a mistake by voting "yes".
i do understand what you are saying. and i understand the anger, that is why i left. i was angry that i was not getting my way. my response to that would be this:
if the union takes 3% of say 20000 for example. that is 600 a year. you receive a pay raise every year, so by the time you top out at 45k or what ever the cap is , you will be paying 1350 a year(based on 45k) 99% of you will never need them, so you will be paying all this money for what? you could have hired a lawyer for less.( in the rare event you need one)
if peace of mind is worth that much, then more power to you. but the peace of mind that they give is false. people will still screw up, planes will still break and people will still ***** about their schedules. you can fix your own problems without the union. an internal organization that is not money driven(like alpa) is a much better solution. all you need is the right leadership. if all the pilots are really "care" about the company it works for and their success, then putting together this kind of effort should be easy.
The problem is, they dont care, and they will not structure this kind of movement. the real motivation is money and perks. They will loose money the minute the unions get the contract.
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