holy ####, I think I nodded off a few times with that one. To start, I am still flying the lear, so no Rich its not what im trying to do. Its just a really good loophole I think, and what better place to bring it up. Maybe ill shoot a letter off the the chief counsils office, but dont expect an update for a year. As for your buddys info...Some pretty typical language from the FAR, but none of it really addresses the issue. much of it had to do with acting pic, which is irrelevant. And where does the falsification of records, proficiency check, etc... come in to play? I know some of you long time captains are offended at even the notion that an FO could log PIC with an sic type...and frankly, it doesnt sound too rational to me, but ego aside, with respect to LOGGING pic only, where in that jumble of regs do you see that it prohibits it?