Old 12-25-2008 | 03:50 PM
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From: EFFO (eternally furloughed First Officer)
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Originally Posted by CAPTAIN INSANO
At a particular US Express carrier, all the FOs on the line, many of which are picking up copious amounts of open time with nearly 100 of their fellow FOs, even some that were in the same class as the open time offenders, on furlough.

I'm just curious, when will you decide that your 2nd year FO pay, a $7/hour PAY INCREASE, to a measly $30ish/hr, which is a crime in itself... when is your 2nd year FO pay rate going to be enough? Enough to make you feel ashamed for picking up open-time while your fellow pilots are on the street, and you fly extra work that could be flown by a furloughed pilot.

Don't fool yourself, even 3-5 furloughed pilots coming back to cover open-time flying is better than none.

Selfish individuals always try to rationalize their negative decisions. The worst part is I guarantee you nobody that has ever been furloughed, who is a decent human being, would ever fly an hour of open time with fellow pilots on the street.

I don't want to hear any stories about starving children, or not being able to make a rent payment. You signed up for this job knowing what it pays, you have to accept the consequences. Stop living beyond your means, and you wouldn't be in a tight spot concerning cash.

So, from a pilot who would never pick up open time with my fellow pilots on street, on this beautiful Christmas day, when will you stop?
  • When will you stop picking up open time?
  • When will you stop answering your phone on your days off to get junior manned?
  • When will you stop being an uneducated fool, and let scheduling abuse you?
  • When will you stop bending the contract to help the company out beyond any reasonable exceptions?
  • When will you stop trying to rationalize your destructive, negative behaviour, and help the pilot group as a whole?
  • When will you stop lieing to yourself, and others when the subject of picking up open time comes up?
Merry Christmas to Everybody, and hopefully this small public service announcement reaches out to the hearts, and minds of all pilots.
COMPLETLY AGREE

Originally Posted by navigatro
In my humble opinion, anyone who picks up open time, with pilots on furlough, is a piece of crap.

Insano, why don't you name the company, and name individuals (if not here then on your in house website.)

A little shame can work wonders.
No one should pick up open time ever! what you think because you have bills and family that the pilot on the street dosent?There is no way to justify picking up open time! I have bills to pay, i have a family, i have a new baby due in less than a month with no insurance because i am already on furlough. what makes your situation any tougher than mine. So do you still want to pick up open time?DONT DO IT!!!! (with that said it is wrong to name drop in a public forum)

Originally Posted by HercDriver130
Picking up open time during while a furlough is in effect is like slapping your fellow pilot in the face. Let the company live with the bed they made. They can assign reserves, extend pilots already flying or attempt to junior man. Anything with your CBA. If anything the union of they had a pair, would be trying to negotiate a reduction in hours per line to try and get some guys or gals back off the street. If you want to talk the talk about sticking together as a union group, then WALK the freaking WALK and take shared sacrifice to better the whole group.

rant over.

Merry Christmas
ALSO AGREE!

on a personal note i also feel that if you are strictly a GA pilot then no your opinion is not wanted on the matter

Last edited by teamdothis; 12-25-2008 at 03:54 PM. Reason: needed to rant some more!
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