eaglefly.... the term "from what i've heard" encompasses a lot of things, but many times "facts" are not one of them. I would say that if you were not there witnessing the whole thing, it would be prudent not to speculate. I have not heard any such story on the incident. I do know that most if not all of our crews are professional enough to not attempt such a maneuver in conditions like that. I also know that the -80, at lighter weights, has a nasty tendency to skid on its very lightly loaded nosewheel. It really does not take very much forward speed for this to happen.

That said, you are absolutely correct in your last paragraph, stating that we all need to be extra prudent in conditions like these.

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