Come on Mike,

You must be kidding? First, read my post again. I never called foul for them staying. What I'm saying is that in hindsight they haven't done much for their retirement and may have been better off had they left a year ago.

Now I am calling for them to retire based on the upcoming BLG reductions we will all face. I realize the economy has everything to do with why we are in a reduced flying schedule. But the overmanning was certainly exacerbated by the 130-140 guys that chose to hang out in the back for the rule to change and the other 150 or so who have chosen not to retire since the rule change. Do you really think this isn't part of the problem? Obviously it is a significant and worsening part of the problem as more guys come up on 60 and decide to stay as this will only worsen an overmanned situation. Is it asking too much for those guys that have reached 60 and will take a FULL retirement to GO? I think not. Its the right thing to do for them, us and the company.