Originally Posted by kronan

Certainly don't know what the arbitrator will say once one becomes available.

But, I would argue that the 777 carries 15% more payload 30% farther than the MD.
With that logic in mind, why doesn't the MD pay a premium over the Airbus? We carry a lot more than 15% extra payload and a lot more than 30% farther. That battle was already fought and decided when we accepted a single WB scale. The only way to go is extra pay for the Ultra long flights.

And, in 5-10 years the pilots senior enough to hold the 777 will be the 38%'ers as we approach ND status so why do I want to shoot myself in the foot now just to spite those bidding it right now. I'd virtually guarantee that none of them give a damn what my opinion of anyone bidding a plane we don't have a payrate for.
I'm a 38%er and don't agree with you. Why should we waste capital to improve the pay of a small group of pilots and not the group as a whole? The 777 piece of pie (with 15 airplanes) is too small for everyone to have the opportunity to fly it.

And if the arbitrator is comparing our hourly wages compared to the legacies....then should be adding a similar percentage ontop of the 777

for example, DAL 12 yr Capt pay 767/A330 is 181, FDX 12 yr is 232....so, about 28% greater.
You forget that the biggest group of 12 year FedEx WB captains are flying the MD...not the Airbus. The 767 isn't close to the MD-11. The way it will be viewed is that FedEx flies the MD-11 for 232/hr and Delta flies the larger 777 for 191/hr. Case closed.

DAL 777 pay is 191, adding 28% puts you at 244....FDX A380 payrate is 248
The 777 is no A-380